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Just give us a link to your source, sweetie… I’d love to think it was true, but I’ve known some really big brains who were not vegetarian, so I’m not sure if it’s really true.

It would flatter me if it was though, eh?

Don’t take it badly, but what a ridiculous point !

If children with higher IQs “GO ON” to become vegetarians, then that must mean that they eat meat beforehand, and having a higher IQ beforehand, whilst eating meat, cannot prove any connection between eating meat and IQ levels.

Your IQ can’t be very high if you failed to notice that.

I suspect it is because if you have a higher IQ you are more aware of yourself including your diet and eating a lot of meat especially red meat is not good for you.

Cause and effect are always difficult to get in the right order.

I always wonder if it is really the nicotine that causes the cancer or that heavy smokers tend to be stressed people anyway and the stress causes the cancer which occurs in the lungs because any smoke is an irritant.

Otherwise how do you get 106 year old smokers?

Again you fail to provide a link…

Here it is. You will also notice that the difference is only 5 points, not a major difference. If you also read carefully you will notice that 100 out of the 366 vegetarians used in this study ate fish and chicken therefore …they are obviously not vegetarian … therefore completely voiding your argument.

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Obviously Ashley you are the exception to the rule!!!
Mr Kruger before you go slagging off other answerers I suggest that you check your own replies for errors. Not a full stop or capital letter anywhere ( + a couple of spelling errors!) Let him who is without sin cast the first stone ……!
As far as I know this is still a free country so any one irrespective of dietary persuasion can respond to questions.

thats extremly ignorant! Eating meats poltury pork and fish is very good for you. And no there is no proof that vegerterians have higher iq’s By a vegertarian even considering that is saying that vegertarian is ignorant ie: and having a low IQ

IF that study was proof (it was interesting but too many variables, doesn’t prove anything, doesn’t claim anything), you, ASHLEY, are the exception to the rule.

BTW, how’s the bull milking and the ravens flying around the towers? hahaha
Moron.

Added: OMG, how stupid do u have to be to get that no one would call themselves a moron? I was refering to you, muppet.
ASHLEY, YOU ARE A MORON. better?

You know what? before you came along I was blisfully unaware that I was a Moron, a Hatemonger and a stalker.

I visited the Vegetarian site because I wanted to learn and experience the very many types of different cuisines that are available to us.

Boy did I learn.

On your own you must have done more to turn people against the ways of vegetarianism than anyone I can think of.

I simply cannot understand how you expect to get people to change their way of life when all you can take is an insulting and arrogant manner to try to force your views on people without exception.

Obviously having a very low IQ, I am unable to grasp the concept that a dictatorship is the best way forward,or that rudeness and insult is a prime negotiating tool.

Why on earth do you carry out your rants in the only section that supports the lifestyle you advocate? surely you would be better off in the ethnic groups where meat eating is the norm.

I think most of us are quite aware as to how our foodstuffs are cultivated and prepared but that doesn’t interest you, I have never forced any diet on my children - my daughter chose to be vegetarian and I accepted that - no problem.

I didn’t start trying to force any meat products down her throat because I thought my way was better.

I believe this is true intelligence - explanation, teaching, advice, coaching, mentoring and constructive application.

Not the inane hissyfits that only you seem to want to employ.

If thats Hatemongering then I will wear it with pride because I believe we all have a choice and freedom of speech.

If it makes me a moron, then I can only say that at least I have travelled the world extensively and I have seen things that you would have no concept of, let alone would care to witness.

If I am a stalker merely because I have the ability to express my views however in conflict with yours then you had better settle down and accept a lifetime of disappointment, however short it may be.

You have the bearing of an unruly and ignorant child, totally lacking the ability to be able to express yourself in a calm and dignified manner, and therefore will never command any respect or acceptance from your peers or siblings.

Yeah, I have seen a similar thing that came out several years ago.

I would tend to agree with Frank. People who became vegetarian are likely to have had a tendency to question things and not just accept them as they are told. But I can’t believe ALL vegetarians have higher IQs than ALL people who eat meat–people are more complicated than that.

Well let’s see, as for personal experience I eat meat, always have and in the 4th grade could read at an 8th grade level. My kids eat meat and are all intelligent kids. My daughters friend is a vegetarian, and not any smarter than my kids! She also eats a bunch of other crap too though. She is not in it for health reasons. I don’t think one is smarter than the other

Before you start trying to teach people what an answer is, maybe you should give some thought into what a question is.

There’s no point ‘asking’ something if you already have your answer ingraved into your mind and will only accept answers that are identical to this.

A question is asked if you wish to learn something but if you can only accept your answer as the right one and go off reporting people who disagree with you then that’s hardly a question at all. Again, it’s just another ashley rant.

Vegetarians might ‘tend’ to have higher IQs but you obviously prove that there are exceptions.

I’m a meat eater & while i don’t always with everything u or vegetarians say i respect your right to say it & respect everyone’s right to eat the way they see fit. someone’s eating habits shouldn’t be such a major issue & shouldn’t be a reason for people to hate one another.

first of all - Hot Dog - Hitler was NOT a vegetarian - he closed down the german vegetarian society and was known to enjoy bratwursts every morning at breakfast - vegetarians are certainly not more aggressive - most of us are vege for ethical reasons - implying compassion - the idiotic questions asked by the trolls simply bring out our worse side - he idiotic answers too

to reply to the question - it has been proven that vegetarians generally have slightly higher IQ’s but whether the IQ is the cause or effect of the vege diet, i don’t know - maybe kids have to be smarter to do it in the first place, then get even smarter after removing hormones and toxins from their diets - it has been proven that vegetarians have better focus than meat eaters, so that could be another input - curious question though =)

Conor H, i believe that late in Einstein’s career he went vegetarian.

“Our task must be to free ourselves . . . by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature and its beauty.”
“Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances of survival for life on earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet.”
Albert Einstein, physicist, Nobel Prize 1921

Interesting….interesting….

My first question would be, higher IQs that what? The average meat-eater? What was the pool that this study was taken from. Where the people studied “true vegetarians” or did they classify themselves as such even though they still consumed fish? Important questions to ask. Also, how long were these subjects followed? What was the rate of recidivism? How many went back to eating meat. Studies always have a certain bias. Who did they test and was the sample big enough to draw this type of conclusion?

Studies are rarely definitive. They simply use statistical data to draw a conclusion. That doesn’t mean that the conclusion is the answer or that it might not change in the future.

Not sure why I am even wasting my time “replying” to this idiot crap, I’m not even going to answer your question because it’s obtuse and ridiculous. I’m not a vegan or vegetarian, but I’m sick of your juvenile, sophomoric questions and statements. I’m not sure what you are getting out of this, but you have been here far too long and have annoyed far too many people. I realize there is nothing we can do to make you stop coming here, but maybe you should think about putting an end to this babbling and consider doing something productive. Maybe something like school work, or a job or whatever it is that you do. Just leave these people alone once and for all.

Actually Ash ol gal, I would say it would be the other way around. I think that they need to be smart enough to get into college but dumb enough to be brain washed by the liberal hippie teachers in our colleges today. The kids with the higher IQ’s go to college, get their education and refuse to be brain washed by all the vegetarian, tree hugging, human hating, carbon offsetting, hilary clinton loving, liberal pieces of crap that cant do anything productive so they get jobs reading text books to college students.

That makes perfect sense to me.

I think it stands to reason that an intelligent person can clearly see the meat industry creates enormous amounts of suffering, damages the environment and is bad for human health - and therefore acts upon this information.

You’re right about meat eaters, they attack us to try to ease their own conscience, because they are too selfish to change their ways.

Great question - well done!

Sorry, not true! All in my family eat meat. Oldest graduated first in his class, youngest graduated second (btw, he is also “gifted”). Hubby is now back in college for his Master’s (will graduate in May) and his GPA is 4.0. I am also no slouch as I am an R.N. with 35 years experience. While I worked all specialties such as ICU, CCU, most of my experience was ER.

Nope, none of us have low IQs and none of us avoid meat.

Can you identify your source please!!!! I doubt it because I doubt that this statement has any amount of truth of thruth in it …not even a grain or seed. Why when we are so clearly deisgned to eat both meat and vegetables, i.e. we are omnivores would you ever think that denying ourselves could or might reflect in a change or be reponsible for or a reflection of increased intelligence? I think that the only possibility that might apply is that maybe some fairly intellegent people who found they were not acheiving or gaining the recognition that they craved within there careers or life. Maybe they made a conscious decision to attract attention to themselves by coming out and stating that they would no longer eat meat…..blah blah blah probably for all the same reasons that the veggies of today keep spouting i.e. animal welfare, health etc etc etc. They then duped a few of there more gullible friends into joining the “cause” and so we arrive at todays “veggie” or “vegan”. Does any of you “veggies” know who the founder or origantor of the “veggie” idea was?